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Adobe Flash Player 10.1 Pre-release Test - Works Great!

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Update: Anandtech has more benchmarks, including Hulu performance as well as troubleshooting tips in case you can’t get Flash 10.1 to work.

Update - support for ATI Radeon HD graphics too! Thanks Gozer!

  • Intel GMA 4000 series
  • Radeon HD 3000 and 4000 series - corrections: read comments
  • Broadcom BCM70012 Mini-PCIe card (Crystal HD Video Player)
  • NVidia ION (including LE)

Adobe has released a pre-release version of Flash Player 10.1, which now can take advantage of GPU hardware acceleration for HD video.

Download Adobe Flash Player 10.1.

If you have a netbook with NVidia ION graphics, GMA500 graphics (Dell Mini 10, Sony Vaio P, MSI Wind U115 and so on) or an Intel CULV notebook (GMA 4500MHD), go try this out and let me know how it works for you. Netbook users with GMA 950 graphics are out of luck unless you have a Broadcom Crystal HD card installed (like on the HP Mini 110)

Find a video that you know was uploaded in 1080p and add &fmt=37 to the URL to enable 1080P HD Video.

I tested it out on my HP Pavilion DM1 notebook and 1080P HD video plays smoothly now and is no longer a slideshow like I showed you previously. I was using Firefox in the video. CPU usage was hovering at around 60-80%.

Flash 10.1 with Intel GMA 4500MHD Graphics Video - YouTube 1080p Test
Flash 10.1 with NVidia ION Graphics Video - YouTube 1080p Test

On my single core Atom 230 ION Acer Aspire Revo nettop, it still doesn’t seem to be 100% smooth, but it’s still very watchable and isn’t a slideshow anymore.

Thanks Ion!

Posted 11/17/09 at 11:05 AM / Announcements 26 Comments

Tag(s): hp pavilion dm1, flash player

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Reader Comments (26)

gozer 11/17 at 12:18 PM

Turns out Adobe did good its not limited to Nvidia

ATI Radeon 3000 & 4000 series are supported.

Intel GMA 4000 series are supported

Most of GeForce 8/9/1xx/2xx series are supported.

Also the Broadcom Crystal HD is supported too.

Taken from release notes
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/releasenotes.pdf

Robert 11/17 at 12:50 PM

HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you check the cpu utilization on the Revo? it might be that even with Ion acceleration it’s still to much for it IMO.

CULV notebooks just became my desktop replacement.

Also another thing ,  with ATOM in office ONENOTE, when you resize the text pads it lags.

Acer 1820pt, move your arse!

Robert 11/17 at 01:14 PM

well it’s a beta so maybe,  still some bugs left.

Btw I noticed another thing but, I’m not sure if it matters.
If your monitor’s res is full hd , maybe when you go full screen on it the cpu utilization might go up on the culv notebook.

Ion 11/17 at 01:22 PM

Peter, the entire Nvidia GPU line that has H.264 bitstream decoding is fully supported also.

You must install the latest graphics drivers as suggested in the release notes for Nvidia GPUs.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3678&p=2

“I dusted off ASRock’s ION system based on the Intel Atom 330 (dual-core 1.6GHz Atom) processor for the first part of today’s testing. It had a copy of Windows Vista x64 installed so I stuck with that. The integrated GeForce 9300/9400M chipset supports DXVA/DXVA2 and should be able to offload much of the video decode from the sluggish CPU to the integrated GPU.

As you can see from the results below, CPU utilization drops significantly when going from Flash 10.0.32.18 to 10.1.51.45. Not only do the numbers drop, but playback performance (number of dropped frames) improves significantly. I’d say that all of the tests below were totally playable on the Ion system thanks to Flash 10.1.

Windowed Average CPU Utilization   Flash 10.0.32.18   Flash 10.1.51.45
Hulu Desktop - The Office - Murder   70%  30%
Hulu HD 720p - Legend of the Seeker Ep1   75%  52%
Hulu 480p - The Office - Murder   40%  23%
Hulu 360p - The Office - Murder   20%  16%
YouTube HD 720p - Prince of Persia Trailer   60%  12%
YouTube - Prince of Persia Trailer   14%  7%
These are awesome improvements. The Hulu HD results were a bit high but the YouTube HD test showed a drop from 60% CPU utilization down to 12%. Most impressive.”

Ion 11/17 at 01:48 PM

Peter, Radeon 3000 series is not supported, as per the release notes. The Radeon HD 3000 series discrete GPUs do not have UVD2, only UVD+. Radeon HD 2000 series also not supported, they only have UVD.

The only Radeon 3000 series supported is the Radeon 3200/3300 IGPs, since they have UVD2. Looks like ATI is a lot less compatible than Nvidia.

Ion 11/17 at 03:17 PM

Nvidia users, please install the latest 195.55 WHQL release candidate drivers.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_195.55.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_195.55.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_195.55.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_195.55.html

Notebook drivers

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winxp_195.55.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winxp64_195.55.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winvista_win7_195.55.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winvista_win7_x64_195.55.html

Alfredo 11/17 at 07:36 PM

any news with gma500 poulsbo?

Ivan 11/17 at 10:39 PM

What about HTML5 instead of Flash? It would solve all this problems in future?

patters 11/18 at 03:17 AM

I tried it with GMA500 and unfortunately it doesn’t work, at least not in Windows 7 using the latest driver (2015). Pretty disappointing since the chip can definitely handle it. I wrote up my findings on the Adobe forum:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/526017?tstart=0

TrackSmart 11/18 at 04:40 AM

Hi Patters,

That’s disappointing to hear!  I got excited for a moment when I saw Peter’s suggest to try out it - it made me think that it would have GMA 500 support.  I’ll give it a test anyway, when I get the chance…

jimbean 11/18 at 07:12 AM

i have it on my MSi x320 (atom z530 / GMA 500 / Win7) and it works great!  before it, i couldn’t run hd from youtube/hulu/vimeo, but now it runs great, both 720p and 1080p.  check out my video below from after flash 10.1 install.  forgive the crappy video from the cheapo camera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_z27bDd6cY

gozer 11/18 at 01:21 PM

AMD have released new Catalyst drivers that add support for Radeon 5000 series not that you’ll see many of those in netbooks

http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx

TrackSmart 11/18 at 07:28 PM

GMA 500 Test totally failed.

I tried it on my Acer 751h.  The video is mostly gray blobs and artifacts.  So, while the CPU is not pegged at 100% (it’s more like 75% for HD Youtube or HD Hulu), the video is unwatchable due to artifacts.

Hopefully, this will get fixed.  But that might require Intel to get off it’s laurels and work with Adobe to add support…

TrackSmart 11/18 at 07:31 PM

JimBean,

Can you please tell us which driver and operating system you are using on your MSI X320?

It’s possible that the correct driver will make all the difference, given that it works on your machine.

jimbean 11/18 at 09:39 PM

I downloaded the driver straight from the intel site:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3001&DwnldID=17995&lang=eng

Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 500
Production Version 7.14.10.1006
08/11/2009

Also, try turning on or off the hardware acceleration option in flash when viewing the video.  I found when I had flash 10, i needed to turn that option off.  with 10.1 i tried it on and off and it didn’t really make a difference.

TrackSmart 11/19 at 07:37 PM

Thanks for that.  You are actually using an older driver, however, if that older driver works with Flash 10.1, it might be worth using.

My Driver (not working):  8.14.10.2011 (Vista/Win 7)

Your Driver (working):  7.14.10.1006 (Vista)

I’ll try to install the older driver tonight or tomorrow and see what happens…

Ryan 11/19 at 11:37 PM

Hey Peter,

I installed the 10.1 release of Flash on my Aspire Revo (single core, XP SP3, ION LE), and I’m seeing similar CPU numbers to what you posted.  Also, I installed the 195.55 beta drivers, and I lost NVIDIA HD audio.  It literally disappeared as an option from Control Panel -> Sound.  Did you have a similar experience? Reverting back to latest release drivers restored the NVIDIA sound option.

Ion 11/25 at 01:37 PM

Nvidia has newer GeForce 195.62 WHQL candidate drivers for desktop GPUs and Ion.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_195.62.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_195.62.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_195.62.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_195.62.html

Ion 11/26 at 10:31 AM

The GeForce 195.62 drivers are now WHQL certified.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_195.62_whql.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp64_195.62_whql.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_32bit_195.62_whql.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7_winvista_64bit_195.62_whql.html

Paul Roberts 11/29 at 08:19 AM

Not sure if the Acer 1600 single core with only two hyperthreads will always struggle a bit with Flash. May be too much that still hits the CPU.

I just got my Acer 3610 dual core 330 and installed the Flash 10.1. Works flawlessly at 1080p full screen at 20-25% CPU usage. Did a full review on my blog and posted some vids on Youtube. Wish I had an HD cam to shoot the vid with though….

Nice reviews here. Thanks for the info!

Ion 12/04 at 10:41 PM

Nvidia has released GeForce 195.62 WHQL notebook drivers for notebook GPUs and IGPs.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winxp_195.62_whql.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winxp64_195.62_whql.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winvista_win7_195.62_whql.html

http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook_winvista_win7_x64_195.62_whql.html

Ryan 12/11 at 10:48 PM

The 195.62 drivers also break HD Audio on the Revo 1600 running XP SP3.  See: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=de22c6d5d55736f7d81cbd5a8815cd9c&t=1185529 for others with the same problem.

I submitted feedback for the 195.55 driver to NVIDIA describing the problem, and have also done so for the 195.62 WHQL one.  Hopefully, somebody over there is actually reading the feedback…

vlaja 12/21 at 10:33 AM

Hi i also have x320 and i am thinking to return it, but i really want it to work i mean the video, because its very slow motion in fullscreen mode or in youtube. What should i do? Should i install xp or win7? Can that help, i really want to make this work so i can keep it! Plz HELP!

Flv Player 01/04 at 10:17 PM

I have questions or requests regarding upcoming Flash Player releases. How can I get answers, or where should I send requests?

Marc Aronson 01/11 at 12:25 AM

My configuration is as follows:

1. flash 10.1 beta 2

2. nvidia beta driver 195.81

3. Windows XP home edition

4. Acer AR1600-U910H with Intel Atom 230(1.6GHz) 1GB DDR2 and NVIDIA ION LE graphics

Hulu playback results in CPU utilization ranging between 25% and 60% depending on the resolution of the source material. My output display is 1280x720. I am having three problems:

1. I see video tearing in some scenes.

2. Occasional glitches where video does a stop/start.

3. I don’t see any way to do audio over HDMI. I’ve gone into the control panel->sounds_and_audio_devices->Audio, but I don’t see an option for selecting it.

Someone suggested that flash 10.1 beta 1 might give me better results on issues 1 and 2, but I don’t know where to find it.

Any suggestions/ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Marc

Paul Roberts 01/11 at 12:40 AM

I did a write up on some of these issues and Flash 1p zip pack.

http://www.pauljroberts.com/flash-beta-10-1-1p-files-for-revo-ion

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